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- From: Chris Marston <cmarston@ls.barrhead.ab.ca>
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.java,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk
- Subject: Re: Will Java kill C++?
- Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 00:15:41 -0600
- Organization: DOA
- Message-ID: <316CA38D.5D96@ls.barrhead.ab.ca>
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- Erik P. DeBenedictis wrote:
- >
- > Andrew Koenig wrote:
- > >
- > > In article <4k7akk$nsh@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> linden@positive.eng.sun.com (Peter van der Linden) writes:
- > >
- > > > Andrew Koenig <ark@research.att.com> wrote:
- > > > >Of course, the head of Java marketing is expected to say things like this,
- > > > >whether or not the facts strictly justify them.
- > >
- > > > Well Andrew, one could equally well say that a proponent, supporter,
- > > > and author of a book on C++ would be expected to defend the C++ language
- > > > by saying something like this, regardless of whether it is borne out by
- > > > the evidence or not ;-)
- > >
- > > Of course. You should always take people's biases into account
- > > when you evaluate what they say.
- >
- > ...yet even a biased person may say things that are worth listening to.
- >
- > I agree with Andy. Java has a lot of marketing behind it.
- >
- > Languages have not traditionally been the center of a lot of marketing attention.
- > C/C++, for example, was developed by AT&T which did NOT market them as a product.
- > Java, on the other hand, is the subject of major marketing efforts by Sun. There
- > are "Java days," for example, where Sun loads a circus tent with a thousand people
- > and provides free food. Thus, I don't find Java's popularity at all surprising. While
- > marketing people are not rigorously scientific, they are quite capable of producing
- > a large amount of talk/$ invested. Given the number of marketing dollars apparently
- > devoted to Java (and the lack of a competitor) I think Java's success is pretty
- > much in the "middle of the Bell curve" as a marketing effort.
- >
- > I believe there are better comparisons than C/C++ and Java. There is precedent
- > for applying marketing to computer languges, however. Prolog (or the Japanese
- > 5th generation computing initiative) and PL/1 got very expensive marketing campaigns
- > as well. These were all bombs.
- >
- > Is it possible that Java will become the Prolog or PL/1 of the 90's?
- >
- > Erik DeBenedictis
-
- When was the last time you saw ProLog featured in Time magasine? ;^) I
- think it already has too much inertia & dev community support behind
- it to meet that kind of grisly end. Besides, Java is actually
- _useful_....
-